Left 4 Dead

Originally Posted by Dark Applepolisher

Video Games: Serious business.

QFT, ART FAGS

AMIRITE

I think I'll go ahead and lock this until the game is actually out.

Originally Posted by Kittens :3

First paragraph, yes, the problem is that video games are not taken seriously as an artistic medium and so finding a team and getting funding for making a seriously artistic game is fucking hard. I honestly don't know how the Odin Sphere team managed to do it, but games like OS are such a rarity.

And Charkles, Music and Literature are taken seriously as artistic mediums but they are in the exact same condition as video games in that the Bourgeoisie command the market, and the bourgeoisie demand mediocrity. North America can't take *any* medium seriously, it's their common belief that music is 100% subjective, after all. I'm speaking from a world standpoint, everyone knows North America is total shit artistically. But it's the mentality Chris was exhibiting that's far too commonplace, and so I was calling him a faggot.

also cocks

Odin Sphere was not art. it was just a 2d brawler, They've existed for years. They aren't produced much anymore because about half of them or more are pure shit.

Also North America is total shit eh? Considering most of the methods of doing animation today were created in America (IE Rotoscoping) the statement doesn't make much sense. And how can we forgot Walt Disney? Fantasia is one of the most artistic films of all time.

Kittens you have the classic "I AM ARTY" nonsense mind set.

I can care less about video games being considered art, That's not why I play them, They are played entirely based upon their fun level.

Originally Posted by Charkles

QFT, ART FAGS

AMIRITE

qft 3

Originally Posted by Kain

Odin Sphere was not art. it was just a 2d brawler, They've existed for years. They aren't produced much anymore because about half of them or more are pure shit.
(this game is somewhat like another game, so it can't be artistic.)

Also North America is total shit eh? Considering most of the methods of doing animation today were created in America (IE Rotoscoping) the statement doesn't make much sense. And how can we forgot Walt Disney? Fantasia is one of the most artistic films of all time.
(clings to american flag, u canadians know nothing of freedom........)

Kittens you have the classic "I AM ARTY" aristocratic mind set.
(he is x archetype, categorization complete, I can turn off my brain now)

I can care less about video games being considered art, That's not why I play them, They are played entirely based upon their fun level.
(I'm too dumb to comprehend quality so I'm just going to inhale whatever, fu kittens)

You have the classic bourgeoisie EVERYTHING IS SUBJECTIVE I MUST BRING EVERYTHING DOWN TO MY LEVEL mindset, mine's better.

Odin Sphere's visuals were incredible, it had nothing to do with the style of the game, you're stupid.

Visual arts are Sculpting and Painting. Modern methods like modelling, animating, and filmmaking have not matured yet, even if trash like Disney and Fantasia could be considered significant examples of them, it doesn't matter. Film is the furthest along of the three, it's still got a long way to go~

edit: Kain is dumb.

Originally Posted by Kittens :3

You have the classic bourgeoisie EVERYTHING IS SUBJECTIVE I MUST BRING EVERYTHING DOWN TO MY LEVEL mindset, mine's better.

WAAH WAAAH WAAAH I'M A FUCKING ART FAG

Get back 2 mother russia you pretentious wankstain.

(I love you really kittens <3)

Originally Posted by Charkles

WAAH WAAAH WAAAH I'M A FUCKING ART FAG

Get back 2 mother russia you pretentious wankstain.

(I love you really kittens <3)

*flips hair, adjusts Justeaucorps*

You can adjust my Justeaucorps any day, my love

I don't really understand how you could say something like art, which in itself is about free thinking and looking at things from a different perspective has to obey certain rules in order to be called art. If the only things society considered art were works that meet a certain criteria, then you'd be removing the most fundamental factor of any form of artwork, creativity.

By the way, kittens, the bourgeoisie stuff got a little redundant. Might I suggest that you mix it up a little with words like plebian and philistine?

Originally Posted by Raziel

I don't really understand how you could say something like art, which in itself is about free thinking and looking at things from a different perspective has to obey certain rules in order to be called art. If the only things society considered art were works that meet a certain criteria, then you'd be removing the most fundamental factor of any form of artwork, creativity.

By the way, kittens, the bourgeoisie stuff got a little redundant. Might I suggest that you mix it up a little with words like phallic and philistine?

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